Comments on: ALBUM REVIEW: The Flaming Lips And Stardeath And White Dwarfs With Henry Rollins And Peaches Doing Dark Side Of The Moon http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/record-reviews/2010/02/08/album-review-the-flaming-lips-and-stardeath-and-white-dwarfs-with-henry-rollins-and-peaches-doing-dark-side-of-the-moon/ Wed, 07 Dec 2011 00:48:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Dave Kopperman http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/record-reviews/2010/02/08/album-review-the-flaming-lips-and-stardeath-and-white-dwarfs-with-henry-rollins-and-peaches-doing-dark-side-of-the-moon/comment-page-1/#comment-498 Dave Kopperman Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:31:08 +0000 http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/?p=1179#comment-498 It's possible that Floyd was motivated by Vietnam, but when Roger Waters really wrote an anti-war album, he was pretty clear about it - and it was about the Falklands, which the American population couldn't have cared less about, which may explain why 'The Final Cut' was their weakest-selling post DSOTM record. Great album, though! Vietnam was very much an American obsession, and though higher-minded UK acts did offer some commentary on it, I think it wasn't a huge motivation for them. Contemporary politics and their effect on the arts are harder to see when you're inside the moment. If I concede that the granola crowd might find Anti-Bush relevence in this new version, I'd also have to point out that that may be indicative of why it's so hard for the progressive movement to make any traction, these days? The Flaming Lips should have made an appearance at the Tea Party Convention this weekend. That would have been AWESOME. On this version, I did like 'Time' and 'Brain Damage' a lot and liked 'Money' okay (less of a comment on their version, which was neat, than my complete exhaustion with the original). 'Great Gig' somehow didn't hit me well. They might have gotten me if, instead of a DSOTM cover, they actually picked songs from all of Floyd and just done a general Floyd tribute. I know the current vogue is for bands to play full albums, though. I've tried time and again to get into the Flaming Lips. I haven't yet heard 'Embryonic,' but it may be that I'm just not on their wavelength. D. It’s possible that Floyd was motivated by Vietnam, but when Roger Waters really wrote an anti-war album, he was pretty clear about it – and it was about the Falklands, which the American population couldn’t have cared less about, which may explain why ‘The Final Cut’ was their weakest-selling post DSOTM record. Great album, though!

Vietnam was very much an American obsession, and though higher-minded UK acts did offer some commentary on it, I think it wasn’t a huge motivation for them.

Contemporary politics and their effect on the arts are harder to see when you’re inside the moment. If I concede that the granola crowd might find Anti-Bush relevence in this new version, I’d also have to point out that that may be indicative of why it’s so hard for the progressive movement to make any traction, these days? The Flaming Lips should have made an appearance at the Tea Party Convention this weekend. That would have been AWESOME.

On this version, I did like ‘Time’ and ‘Brain Damage’ a lot and liked ‘Money’ okay (less of a comment on their version, which was neat, than my complete exhaustion with the original). ‘Great Gig’ somehow didn’t hit me well. They might have gotten me if, instead of a DSOTM cover, they actually picked songs from all of Floyd and just done a general Floyd tribute. I know the current vogue is for bands to play full albums, though.

I’ve tried time and again to get into the Flaming Lips. I haven’t yet heard ‘Embryonic,’ but it may be that I’m just not on their wavelength.

D.

]]> By: Rock http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/record-reviews/2010/02/08/album-review-the-flaming-lips-and-stardeath-and-white-dwarfs-with-henry-rollins-and-peaches-doing-dark-side-of-the-moon/comment-page-1/#comment-496 Rock Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:31:46 +0000 http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/?p=1179#comment-496 I wasn't crediting DSOTM's success to the war, I was just saying that was probably one of many influences that shaped the direction of the album. And I know its not a protest album, but Floyd had to have been influenced to some degree at least by what was going on. I was comparing Bush to Nixon, not Obama since just about the whole free world loves that guy and there's no way the target audience for Dark Side is a Tea Partier. Although that does make me laugh thinking of members of the GOP sitting back, smoking some bud and listening to DSOTM. And I don't think the argument is too late. We're still in two wars that the previous president got us into. I must concede your point that if you're a Lips fan chances are you've probably already heard DSOTM. But what about the tracks I mentioned previously? You even said in your review that "Time" was a bright spot on the album at least. I thought that alone makes giving this cover a listen worth while. I do have to ask, what was your opinion on the album Embryonic? Because I could see why you didn't like this album if you hated that one. The Lips use a lot of the same effects on their cover that they used on Emb. I wasn’t crediting DSOTM’s success to the war, I was just saying that was probably one of many influences that shaped the direction of the album. And I know its not a protest album, but Floyd had to have been influenced to some degree at least by what was going on.

I was comparing Bush to Nixon, not Obama since just about the whole free world loves that guy and there’s no way the target audience for Dark Side is a Tea Partier. Although that does make me laugh thinking of members of the GOP sitting back, smoking some bud and listening to DSOTM.

And I don’t think the argument is too late. We’re still in two wars that the previous president got us into.

I must concede your point that if you’re a Lips fan chances are you’ve probably already heard DSOTM.

But what about the tracks I mentioned previously? You even said in your review that “Time” was a bright spot on the album at least. I thought that alone makes giving this cover a listen worth while.

I do have to ask, what was your opinion on the album Embryonic? Because I could see why you didn’t like this album if you hated that one. The Lips use a lot of the same effects on their cover that they used on Emb.

]]> By: Dave Kopperman http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/record-reviews/2010/02/08/album-review-the-flaming-lips-and-stardeath-and-white-dwarfs-with-henry-rollins-and-peaches-doing-dark-side-of-the-moon/comment-page-1/#comment-475 Dave Kopperman Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:22:26 +0000 http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/?p=1179#comment-475 I don't know that you can really credit DSOTM's success to the Vietnam War, since a) troops had already started the process of withdrawal in 1971 and DSOTM didn't come out until mid-'73; b) the album only grew and grew in success after its original release, selling millions of copies long after the end of the war, and c) it's not exactly what one would consider a protest album. Political unrest/crooked president: are you making a comparison between Nixon and Obama, or Nixon and Bush? The former would seem to be pretty far off, and the latter, well... it's kind of late for that, don't you think? And if it is Obama, then are you suggesting that the ideal crowd for this version is a Tea Partier? Introducing to a new generation: What new generation of Floyd fans could there possibly be that need to have Dark Side introduced to them by the Flaming Lips? I'm pretty sure the average age of a Pink Floyd fan is probably even younger than the average age of a Lips fan. Is there a window of people who were born between May and July of 1993 that never heard Dark Side of the Moon but are RAVING "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots" fans? Anyway, I'm 100% certain that none of what you say crossed Coyne's mind when they set out to make this cover album. If it had, well, then it would be a much better listen than what they turned out. D. I don’t know that you can really credit DSOTM’s success to the Vietnam War, since a) troops had already started the process of withdrawal in 1971 and DSOTM didn’t come out until mid-’73; b) the album only grew and grew in success after its original release, selling millions of copies long after the end of the war, and c) it’s not exactly what one would consider a protest album.

Political unrest/crooked president: are you making a comparison between Nixon and Obama, or Nixon and Bush? The former would seem to be pretty far off, and the latter, well… it’s kind of late for that, don’t you think? And if it is Obama, then are you suggesting that the ideal crowd for this version is a Tea Partier?

Introducing to a new generation: What new generation of Floyd fans could there possibly be that need to have Dark Side introduced to them by the Flaming Lips? I’m pretty sure the average age of a Pink Floyd fan is probably even younger than the average age of a Lips fan. Is there a window of people who were born between May and July of 1993 that never heard Dark Side of the Moon but are RAVING “Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots” fans?

Anyway, I’m 100% certain that none of what you say crossed Coyne’s mind when they set out to make this cover album. If it had, well, then it would be a much better listen than what they turned out.

D.

]]> By: Rock http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/record-reviews/2010/02/08/album-review-the-flaming-lips-and-stardeath-and-white-dwarfs-with-henry-rollins-and-peaches-doing-dark-side-of-the-moon/comment-page-1/#comment-464 Rock Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:45:48 +0000 http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/?p=1179#comment-464 I'm a fan of the original album and this one as well. I think what The Lips and Stardeath were trying to do was to make an album that reflected the original spirit of Floyd's classic. I feel like your last statements calling this the absolute worst tribute to Pink Floyd to be way off. Especially comparing it to the bluegrass cover of the wall. I think that the tracks, Time, Great Gig in the Sky and Money are all brilliantly re imagined on this album. And when you say that this album needs an answer to the question "why?" think about the time period in which the original album was released. We were at war with Vietnam, our president was a crook, and the whole world was experimenting with drugs. It was a time of uncertainty, political unrest, and we were at war....kinda sounds familiar right? What better time to reinvent this album and introduce it to another generation? So I think your statement that "This is one lazy fucking piece of stoner jam rock." is just not accurate. I’m a fan of the original album and this one as well. I think what The Lips and Stardeath were trying to do was to make an album that reflected the original spirit of Floyd’s classic. I feel like your last statements calling this the absolute worst tribute to Pink Floyd to be way off. Especially comparing it to the bluegrass cover of the wall. I think that the tracks, Time, Great Gig in the Sky and Money are all brilliantly re imagined on this album. And when you say that this album needs an answer to the question “why?” think about the time period in which the original album was released. We were at war with Vietnam, our president was a crook, and the whole world was experimenting with drugs. It was a time of uncertainty, political unrest, and we were at war….kinda sounds familiar right? What better time to reinvent this album and introduce it to another generation? So I think your statement that “This is one lazy fucking piece of stoner jam rock.” is just not accurate.

]]> By: Dave Kopperman http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/record-reviews/2010/02/08/album-review-the-flaming-lips-and-stardeath-and-white-dwarfs-with-henry-rollins-and-peaches-doing-dark-side-of-the-moon/comment-page-1/#comment-437 Dave Kopperman Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:06:05 +0000 http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/?p=1179#comment-437 Although since you did like it, I'm interested to know what about it specifically you liked. Although since you did like it, I’m interested to know what about it specifically you liked.

]]> By: Dave Kopperman http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/record-reviews/2010/02/08/album-review-the-flaming-lips-and-stardeath-and-white-dwarfs-with-henry-rollins-and-peaches-doing-dark-side-of-the-moon/comment-page-1/#comment-436 Dave Kopperman Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:04:21 +0000 http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/?p=1179#comment-436 It should be said in their defense that I've proven completely immune to the charms of the Flaming Lips over the last - what is it, now, fifteen years? But I think it's not that far off the mark to consider this version ultimately a stoner weekend jam, and that's the best way to approach enjoying it. After all, supposedly they're opening Bonnaroo with it this year. It should be said in their defense that I’ve proven completely immune to the charms of the Flaming Lips over the last – what is it, now, fifteen years? But I think it’s not that far off the mark to consider this version ultimately a stoner weekend jam, and that’s the best way to approach enjoying it. After all, supposedly they’re opening Bonnaroo with it this year.

]]> By: brad http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/record-reviews/2010/02/08/album-review-the-flaming-lips-and-stardeath-and-white-dwarfs-with-henry-rollins-and-peaches-doing-dark-side-of-the-moon/comment-page-1/#comment-434 brad Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:40:52 +0000 http://www.zeitgeistyreport.com/?p=1179#comment-434 I disagree. Perhaps it is you whom lacks the ability to dig deeper or even let this album overtake you. You should realize that sometimes an album takes a few listens for one's mind to adjust. There is plenty for you there if you just let it sink in. That being said, I dug the original and I dig this one. I disagree. Perhaps it is you whom lacks the ability to dig deeper or even let this album overtake you. You should realize that sometimes an album takes a few listens for one’s mind to adjust. There is plenty for you there if you just let it sink in. That being said, I dug the original and I dig this one.

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